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Ex Nihil писал(а) 21 мар 2019, 11:55:nastasjjja, Вам то да)
но у меня нет диплома переводчика( оттого вдруг проблемы возникнут
leliksa писал(а) 20 мар 2019, 19:38:
Представляете, сегодня получили отказ с абсолютно такими же основаниями. 2 шенгенских мультика по 5 лет в нынешнем паспорте. Жена, ребенок, работа. Зп около 100т.р. Создалось идентичное впечатление, что потеряли документы. Вот уже пишем апелляцию. Отправлять по электронке будем, т.к. живем почти за 1000км.
From Ivanko Ivankov
Russia, Some Region, the city of N-sk,
One st. 7, apt. 17.
+7 999 999 9999, mail@mail.com
Planned dates of the trip 13-27.04.2019
Visa Application Ref No: 389xxxxx
Appeal Letter.
Dear Visa Appeals Officer,
I would like to appeal the Decision of Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service because I really want to visit Ireland and I have additional arguments to prove my trustworthiness.
F:- Finances:- evidence provided is deemed insufficient or incomplete
It seems that provided bank statements did not fit. One of them was a copy because I live pretty far from the visa centre (another city) and the day I planned to go to Moscow the original was not ready yet (Tinkoff bank provides statements online or by the mail only). Now I have the original back at home, but this moment I can provide only an electronic version issued by internet-banking system. Moreover, I have another statement from the bank I have a deposit in. It is also attached to this letter. If you need any additional documents, please let me know by the email or by the phone.
IH:- Immigration history of applicant or lack thereof
I like to spend my vacation time travelling and exploring new places. I've been to many European countries till now, but never been to Ireland. You can see this looking through my passport. I had a couple of Shengen visas in the past and many border crossing stamps and I’ve never violated visa requirements of these countries.
OB:- Obligations to return to home country have not been deemed sufficient
I’m deeply shocked that real-estate certificates, the reference from my job and the return ticket have not been deemed sufficient as obligations to return to home country. I cannot even imagine what other documents could I provide to prove my intention. I could mention that I have my parents, sister and friends in my country, but I never heard of any organization issuing this kind of documents. Therefore, I give you my word of a traveler and a Russian citizen to return home, as I did after all the journeys before.
OC:- Observe the conditions of the visa - the visa sought is for a specific purpose and duration:- the applicant has not satisfied the visa officer that such conditions would be observed.
I don't know what exactly was found suspicious in my written plan. Maybe it was choosing of cheap accommodations. I prefer hostels not only because of their price. Good hostel is the place where you can always meet travelers from all over the world and have good conversations about places you visited and plan to visit. Moreover, I've booked some B&B's to get another kind of experience too. More traditional kind, as far as I heard.
I have been planning this journey for a long time and the plan is very rich for historical and nature sights located in different parts of the country. I have rented a car for this and I attach a rental voucher to this letter. The day I applied for the visa, it was not ready yet. At first, the rental system takes a deposit and then (about a month later) they block the rest of money on the card. Now the voucher is issued.
PR:- The granting of the visa may result in a cost to public resources
Please review the finance section. I have enough money for the journey and there cannot be any cost to public resources because of my visit.
Sincerely yours, Ivanko Ivankov __________<sign>______________________________
nastasjjja писал(а) 21 мар 2019, 15:17:На мой взгляд, многовато эмоций и маловато фактов.
silverlode писал(а) 21 мар 2019, 15:28:nastasjjja писал(а) 21 мар 2019, 15:17:На мой взгляд, многовато эмоций и маловато фактов.
А как вы считаете, какие ещё факты тут можно привести помимо тех, которые изначально были предъявлены? Пока что только планирую поездку и изучаю правила подачи, но что-то уже в шоке, а казалось, что после 6 британских виз уже ничто не страшно...
Просто перечислите когда и куда вы ездили.Касимов `Касимов Александр` Александр писал(а) 21 мар 2019, 15:01:IH:- Immigration history of applicant or lack thereof
Это про депортацию, т.е. вот вы понаедите и вас, как наконец изловят, придется за гос. счет депортировать. Т.е. тут нечем и незачем оправдываться, это просто прямое следствие предыдущих пунктов.Касимов `Касимов Александр` Александр писал(а) 21 мар 2019, 15:01:PR:- The granting of the visa may result in a cost to public resources
nastasjjja писал(а) 21 мар 2019, 15:17:На мой взгляд, многовато эмоций и маловато фактов. Я бы писала четко и по делу, без фраз типа "i'm deeply shocked".
nastasjjja писал(а) 21 мар 2019, 15:35:Тут в тексте ни одной цифры конкретной нет. Я бы писала, мои финансовые гарантии такие-то: зп 100 тыщ, стаж работы 15 лет, квартира - 1 штука, дети - 1 штука. И т.п.
Lesnik-Sadovod писал(а) 21 мар 2019, 15:46:Ну я добавлю:Просто перечислите когда и куда вы ездили.Касимов `Касимов Александр` Александр писал(а) 21 мар 2019, 15:01:IH:- Immigration history of applicant or lack thereofЭто про депортацию, т.е. вот вы понаедите и вас, как наконец изловят, придется за гос. счет депортировать. Т.е. тут нечем и незачем оправдываться, это просто прямое следствие предыдущих пунктов.Касимов `Касимов Александр` Александр писал(а) 21 мар 2019, 15:01:PR:- The granting of the visa may result in a cost to public resources
F:- Finances:- evidence provided is deemed insufficient or incomplete
IH:- Immigration history of applicant or lack thereof
OB:- Obligations to return to home country have not been deemed sufficient
OC:- Observe the conditions of the visa - the visa sought is for a specific purpose and duration:-
the applicant has not satisfied the visa officer that such conditions would be observed.
PR:- The granting of the visa may result in a cost to public resources
This decision can be appealed within 2 months of the date of this letter. An appeal must be
submitted in writing, fully addressing all the reasons for refusal to the Visa Appeals Officer to
the address shown.
Касимов `Касимов Александр` Александр писал(а) 21 мар 2019, 16:26:nastasjjja писал(а) 21 мар 2019, 15:35:Тут в тексте ни одной цифры конкретной нет. Я бы писала, мои финансовые гарантии такие-то: зп 100 тыщ, стаж работы 15 лет, квартира - 1 штука, дети - 1 штука. И т.п.
Все цифры в документах. И ЗП, и выписки из банков, и стаж работы, и собственность.
Als2 писал(а) 21 мар 2019, 10:56:Мда, раз людям отказывают при зарплате 100 т.р с выписками с движением, приход уход, землей, и прочим)) С одобренным шенгеном на 5 лет...
Я думаю мне ловить там нечего...Касимов `Касимов Александр` Александр писал(а) 21 мар 2019, 00:45:13го апреля
А вы прикладывали Cover Letter?
Апелляция выглядит тоже, как письмо с объяснением по тем пунктам, что их не устроили?
As for the purpose of my visit, I plan to stay several days in Dublin and after that go for a round trip across Irish cities, villages and landscapes. The car has been already booked at Europcar car rentals. To confirm this I enclose a booking confirmation and a copy of my driving license with this letter.
Here is the route plan:
2019 April, 13: arrival, staying in Dublin (Gardiner House Hostel),
2019 April, 14-16: exploring Dublin (Gardiner House Hostel),
2019 April, 17: Dublin - Glendalough (Glendalough International Youth Hostel),
2019 April, 18: Glendalough - Kilkenny - Cashel - Rathcormac (Rovers Rest B&B),
2019 April, 19: Rathcormac - Cork - Blarney Castle - Killarney (The Black Sheep Hostel),
2019 April, 20-22: enjoying Killarney National Park and Kerry Ring views (The Black Sheep Hostel),
2019 April, 23: Killarney - Bunratty Castle - Limerick (Shanakyle house B&B),
2019 April, 24: Limerick - Cliffs of Moher - Doolin (Aille River Hostel),
2019 April, 25: Doolin - Burren National Park - Galway (The Nest Boutique Hostel),
2019 April, 26: walking in Galway (The Nest Boutique Hostel),
2019 April, 27: Galway - Dublin, departure from Dublin.
The booking confirmations are attached.
As a financial guarantee please find enclosed:
- reference from my job,
- several bank statements.
The Sberbank statement shows an activity on my main account for last 6 months. I get a salary on this account, but I prefer to keep money in other banks. Other bank statements are here to confirm sufficient amount of money I have for the journey.
You can consider following documents as an obligation to get back to my country:
- return ticket,
- reference from my job (I plan to proceed with it),
- certificates of rights to real estate.
Ex Nihil писал(а) 24 мар 2019, 17:29:Добрый вечер)
Если в анкете в графе "Country Of Birth" написал Russian Federation вместо USSR, значимо ли это? Вспомнил, только как распечатал уже
И вообще, если есть какие-то косяки с анкетой, можно ли снова ее заполнить? или все, труба?)
Ex Nihil писал(а) 24 мар 2019, 17:29:Добрый вечер)
Если в анкете в графе "Country Of Birth" написал Russian Federation вместо USSR, значимо ли это? Вспомнил, только как распечатал уже
И вообще, если есть какие-то косяки с анкетой, можно ли снова ее заполнить? или все, труба?)
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