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**ArtR** » 11 ноя 2009, 16:27

КОллеги! КТо приобретал скайтимовские пассы? Интересуют американский и круговой... Как это работает? В службе поддержки ерофлота - ни бе, ни ме... Написал письмо в Дельту - молчат.... Спасибо!

**aslan** » 12 ноя 2009, 02:44

Что как работает? На сайте скайтима недостаточно информации?

http://www.skyteam.com/about/products/index.html

Было бы легче отвечать, если бы были конкретные вопросы...

(Если под круговым имеется в виду кругосветка, то у них ооооочень неконкурентноспособные тарифы из большинства стран даже по сравнению со Старом, не говоря уж о oneworld'е)

И еще непонятно, что это делает в "Бонусных программах". Если вопрос не про мили, мы перенесем? Или про мили?

**ArtR** » 12 ноя 2009, 09:29

Именно так, уважаемый старожил! На сайте скайтима инфы недостаточно. Спасибо, конечно, за очевидную ссылку...
Ну, а если конкретно, то проясните некоторые моменты, пожалуйста.....
1. Выписывается сразу билет на все рейсы? или некие купоны. ЧТо означает фраза, что "на рейсы дельты (в американ пассе) надо бронировать места за три дня до трансатлантики, а на остальные рейсы когда пожелаете"?
2. Может ли быть разрыв в точках полета. Например, я лечу Амстердам-Нью-Йорк, а следующий сегмент Орладно-Вегас, т.е. не из NJ?
3. И что за фраза насчет тарифов. НА скайтиме написано, что тариф (мировой) до 26 тыщ миль будет стоить 2600 евро. а на старальянсе мне подобный маршрут расчтитали за 5700.

И- все таки - кто-нибудь покупал такие пассы? Или все только теоретически рассуждают? Отзовитесь!

Тема размещена сюда,т.к. касается бонусных программ и альянсов авиакомпаний. Если считаете. что не об этом - переносите...
Спасибо.

**MZH** » 12 ноя 2009, 15:45

Интересовался возможностью покупки China Pass у Аэрофлота, подтвердили готовность все оформить.
Попробуйте написать на callcenter@aeroflot.ru, они переправят тем, кто в теме.

**aslan** » 14 ноя 2009, 03:06

ArtR писал(а):Выписывается сразу билет на все рейсы? или некие купоны

На все сразу

ArtR писал(а):ЧТо означает фраза, что "на рейсы дельты (в американ пассе) надо бронировать места за три дня до трансатлантики, а на остальные рейсы когда пожелаете"?

Ровно то и означает. Если попросить рейс Дельту на трансатлантике на завтра, пошлют на йух

ArtR писал(а):Может ли быть разрыв в точках полета. Например, я лечу Амстердам-Нью-Йорк, а следующий сегмент Орладно-Вегас, т.е. не из NJ

Да. Причем в RTW будет считаться за один из сегментов

ArtR писал(а):НА скайтиме написано, что тариф (мировой) до 26 тыщ миль будет стоить 2600 евро. а на старальянсе мне подобный маршрут расчтитали за 5700.

Где такое написано? Стоимость кругосветки зависит от страны старта (и от страны продажи - платится более высокий из двух тарифов). Из какой страны это стоит 2600 евро?

**ArtR** » 14 ноя 2009, 09:18

Вот теперь спаисбо) Хотя в аэрофлоте мне сказали, что разрывы делать нельзя... ладно, позвоним в дельту... И насчет цены - идиотский сайт скайтима значит))) Там приведен пример за 2600, я не увидел, что цена зависит от старта. Извините. а цена в зависимости от старта намного может варьироваться? в два раза? в три?

**aslan** » 14 ноя 2009, 10:35

ArtR писал(а):а цена в зависимости от старта намного может варьироваться? в два раза? в три?

Ну вот летние цены, самый маленький в бизнесе:

вылет из ЮКореи и Фиджи = $5210 + сборы
вылет из Камеруна = $11917 + сборы

**ArtR** » 14 ноя 2009, 21:06

вообще-то меня интересует эконом и из москвы)))))) есть такая инфа?

**aslan** » 15 ноя 2009, 10:18

ArtR писал(а):вообще-то меня интересует эконом и из москвы)))))) есть такая инфа?

К вечеру доберусь до компьютера с KVS, посмотрю, если никто раньше не выложит.

**ArtR** » 15 ноя 2009, 10:28

Спасибо! Жду)

**Mike29** » 15 ноя 2009, 10:34

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THESE FARES APPLY FOR ROUND-THE-WORLD TRAVEL TO/FROM THE COUNTRIES SERVED BY THE PARTICIPATING CARRIERS IN THIS RULE. ---- TRAVEL MUST COMMENCE FROM AND RETURN TO THE SAME COUNTRY. ---- CANADA AND U.S. ARE CONSIDERED AS ONE COUNTRY. ---- CHINA AND HONGKONG ARE CONSIDERED AS ONE COUNTRY. ---- SCANDINAVIA IS CONSIDERED AS ONE COUNTRY. ---- SOUTH WEST PACIFIC IS CONSIDERED AS ONE COUNTRY. ---- ITINERARY MAY REFLECT TRAVEL GREATER THAN ROUND THE WORLD PROVIDED IT IS NOT VIA THE POINT OF ORIGIN/DESTINATION AND STILL TERMINATES IN THE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN. ---- INTERCONTINENTAL TRAVEL SHALL BE DEFINED AS TRAVEL FROM ONE CONTINENT TO ANOTHER. ---- AFRICA/ASIA/EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST/NORTH AMERICA/ SOUTH AMERICA AND SOUTH WEST PACIFIC ARE CONSIDERED SEVEN DIFFERENT CONTINENTS. ---- TRAVEL BETWEEN POINTS IN CENTRAL AMERICA AND POINTS IN SOUTH AMERICA/NORTH AMERICA/MEXICO SHALL NOT BE CONSIDERED INTERCONTINENTAL TRAVEL. ---- TRAVEL REQUIRES AND IS LIMITED TO ONE FLIGHT OVER THE ATLANTIC AND ONE FLIGHT OVER THE PACIFIC AND ONE FLIGHT BETWEEN AREA 2 AND AREA 3. ---- FARES ONLY APPLY IF PURCHASED BEFORE DEPARTURE. CAPACITY LIMITATIONS --TICKETING ON/BEFORE 24OCT09-- AF/AM/AZ/CM/CO/CZ/DL/KE/KL/KQ/NW/OK/SU/UX SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED ON ON ANY GIVEN FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES SHALL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS THAT EACH CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON ANY GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIERS BEST JUDGEMENT. ---- ON SECTORS WHERE FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS IS NOT OFFERED/AVAILABLE AT THE TIME OF BOOKING - PASSENGERS WILL BE ACCOMODATED IN THE NEXT LOWER CLASS. NO REFUND WILL APPLY. EXCEPTION - ON SECTORS WITHIN/BETWEEN THE CONTINENTAL U.S./CANADA WHERE BUSINESS CLASS IS NOT OFFERED - PASSENGERS WILL BE ACCOMODATED IN FIRST CLASS SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY OF SEATS AT THE TIME OF BOOKING AT A SURCHARGE /Q/ OF USD 100.00 PER FLIGHT SEGMENT. --TICKETING ON/AFTER 25OCT09-- AF/AM/AZ/CZ/DL/KE/KL/KQ/NW/OK/SU/UX SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED ON ON ANY GIVEN FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES SHALL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS THAT EACH CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON ANY GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIERS BEST JUDGEMENT. ---- ON SECTORS WHERE FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS IS NOT OFFERED/AVAILABLE AT THE TIME OF BOOKING - PASSENGERS WILL BE ACCOMODATED IN THE NEXT LOWER CLASS. NO REFUND WILL APPLY. EXCEPTION - ON SECTORS WITHIN/BETWEEN THE CONTINENTAL U.S./CANADA WHERE BUSINESS CLASS IS NOT OFFERED - PASSENGERS WILL BE ACCOMODATED IN FIRST CLASS SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY OF SEATS AT THE TIME OF BOOKING AT A SURCHARGE /Q/ OF USD 100.00 PER FLIGHT SEGMENT. RULES NOT APPLICABLE RULE 65/E/ - TICKETS/WAIVER FOR ILLNESS RULE 550 - PASSENGER OCCUPYING TWO SEATS. OTHER CONDITIONS PASSENGER EXPENSES SHALL NOT BE ABSORBED BY THE CARRIERS. ---- UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED FOR TRAVEL AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE. ---- TICKET SHOULD BE ISSUED WITH CHECKED BAGGAGE ALLOWANCE AS PIECE FOR THE ENTIRE JOURNEY. NOTE A PASSENGER IS ENTITLED TO 2 PIECES FOR 23 KG EACH AS CHECKED BAGGAGE ALLOWANCE BAGGAGE IN EXCESS OF THE CHECKED BAGGAGE ALLOWANCE SHALL BE CHARGED PER PIECE ACCORDING TO PIECE SYSTEM FOR THE SECTORS WHERE PIECE SYSTEM APPLIES FOR FARES OTHER THAN SKYTEAM RTW FARES FOR THE SECTORS WHERE WEIGHT SYSTEM APPLIES FOR FARES OTHER THAN SKYTEAM RTW FARES BAGGAGE IN EXCESS SHALL BE CHARGED PER KILOGRAM ACCORDING TO WEIGHT SYSTEM.

**aslan** » 15 ноя 2009, 10:39

Mike29 писал(а):Чайна Саусерн - 2860
AF KE DL - 4287

У СZ такой же глюк и в бизнесе. Дядя Миш, не ленись, скинь всю таблицу кругосветных из Москвы: Skyteam, Star, oneworld

**Mike29** » 15 ноя 2009, 10:42

[KVS Availability Tool 5.1.2/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]

Код: Выделить всё: SVO Moscow Sheremetyevo RU [UUEE] SVO Moscow Sheremetyevo RU [UUEE] ×Ò 29 àïð 2010 | RTW | Economy Carrier From To Fare Cur Fare Basis --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ---------- FV SVO SVO 170 USD USXRT CZ SVO SVO 2860 USD QRTWSKY3 AY SVO SVO 3071 USD LONEWC3 AA SVO SVO 3071 USD LGLOB26 AA SVO SVO 3071 USD LONE3 AA SVO SVO 3170 USD LCIRAT17 AC SVO SVO 3243 USD YRWSPCL CZ SVO SVO 3280 USD QRTWSKY2 CZ SVO SVO 3640 USD QRTWSKY1 AA SVO SVO 3642 USD LCIRAT21 AY SVO SVO 3701 USD LONEWC4 AA SVO SVO 3701 USD LGLOB29 AA SVO SVO 3701 USD LONE4 AC SVO SVO 3747 USD YRWSTAR1 AA SVO SVO 4182 USD LCIRAT25 AF SVO SVO 4287 USD VRTWSKY3 AM SVO SVO 4287 USD SRTWSKY3 AZ SVO SVO 4287 USD KRTWSKY3 DL SVO SVO 4287 USD LRTWSKY3 KE SVO SVO 4287 USD YRTWSKY3 AA SVO SVO 4465 USD LGLOB34 AA SVO SVO 4465 USD LONE5 AC SVO SVO 4606 USD YRWSTAR2 AC SVO SVO 5376 USD YRWSTAR3 IB SVO SVO 9726 USD DONEWC4 AY SVO SVO 16860 USD AONEWC4

**ArtR** » 15 ноя 2009, 14:07

Для тех кто на бронепоезде))) Как читать Ваши волшебные таблицы.....??????

**aslan** » 16 ноя 2009, 04:42

Очень просто, только там много лишнего... Вот одни только кругосветки:

Скайтим:
[KVS Availability Tool 5.1.2/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]

Код: Выделить всё: MOW Moscow Metro RU = SVO DME VKO BKA MOW Moscow Metro RU = SVO DME VKO BKA ×Ò 26 íîÿ 2009 | RTW | Economy Carrier From To Fare Cur Fare Basis --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ---------- SU MOW MOW 4287 USD QRTWSKY3 SU MOW MOW 4916 USD QRTWSKY2 SU MOW MOW 5456 USD QRTWSKY1

Это три кругосветки в экономе, различаются количеством миль. Тарифы без сборов в долларах за каждый.

oneworld:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.1.2/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]

Код: Выделить всё: MOW Moscow Metro RU = SVO DME VKO BKA MOW Moscow Metro RU = SVO DME VKO BKA ×Ò 26 íîÿ 2009 | RTW | Economy Carrier From To Fare Cur Fare Basis --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ---------- AA MOW MOW 3071 USD LONE3 AA MOW MOW 3071 USD LGLOB26 AA MOW MOW 3701 USD LONE4 AA MOW MOW 3701 USD LGLOB29 AA MOW MOW 4465 USD LONE5 AA MOW MOW 5244 USD LONE6 AA MOW MOW 5244 USD LGLOB39

Те тарфиы, в которых есть -GLOB- - это Global Explorer, различаются количеством миль (26К, 29К, 39К - см в названиях тарифов), позволяют использовать партнеров вроде S7 ( ).
Те тарифы, где в названии -ONE-, - это Oneworld Explorer, распространяются только на членов альянса, количество миль не ограничено, действуют на 3, 4, 5 или 6 континентах (см последнюю цифру в названии)

Ну и Стар:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.1.2/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]

Код: Выделить всё: MOW Moscow Metro RU = SVO DME VKO BKA MOW Moscow Metro RU = SVO DME VKO BKA ×Ò 26 íîÿ 2009 | RTW | Economy Carrier From To Fare Cur Fare Basis --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ---------- NH MOW MOW 3243 USD YRWSPCL NH MOW MOW 3747 USD YRWSTAR1 NH MOW MOW 4606 USD YRWSTAR2 NH MOW MOW 5376 USD YRWSTAR3

-SPCL - это Special, кругосветка для бедных, дешевая, но с ограничением стоповеров (не больше 5), на 26 000 миль
STAR1, 2, 3 - обычные кругосветки; 29 000, 34 000 или 39 000 миль...

Так чуть понятнее?

**ArtR** » 16 ноя 2009, 09:27

Да! Так вс понятно! И цена в том числе... Если она без сборов, то гораздо дешевле такую кругосветку организовать самому. С учетом азиатских лоукостреов иа американских спецух... Будет гораздооооо дешевле))))

А что с американ пасом скайтима. Цены на сайте актуальны?

**КЮрий** » 17 ноя 2009, 12:10

aslan писал(а):
ArtR писал(а):Выписывается сразу билет на все рейсы? или некие купоны

На все сразу

"глупый" вопрос, как прописываются сегменты в билете:
1. При покупке билета выстраивается весь маршрут, на всех сегментах указывается конкретная дата и номер рейса
2. Прописываются все сегменты, но дата и перевозчик бронируется по телефону за N дней до вылета
3. Ничего не прописывается и каждый последующий сегмент бронируется когда хочу и куда хочу, главное чтобы соблюдались правила по количеству стоповеров, миль, количеству континентов и т.п.
4. не угадал ни один из способов и все это делается как-то подругому

**aslan** » 08 май 2010, 17:32

КЮрий, вариант 1, но некоторые тарифы позволяют оставить открытую дату для всех перелетов после первого или первого межконтинентального.

**shalak** » 15 июл 2011, 09:38

Скоро на сайте скайтима заработает планировщик пассов.в том числе и по RTW.у старов и ванволда такие уже давно имеются а скайтима как всегда тормозит.очень надеюсь что скоро заработает!
По крайней мере раздел уже появился и написано что на реконструкции

**pragrom** » 18 июл 2013, 11:43

Я что-то не найду планировщик pass-ов. RTW есть.